The Death of a Surf Park

The Death of a Surf Park

For the last two years, we lived in hot anticipation of the world’s greatest wavepool. It was to be housed in Florida, and it was to include a changeable bottom that could, at the twist of a dial, switch from a fun beachbreak into a dramatic ledge. Now? It ain’t gonna happen, buddy… Photo and story by Jimmy Wilson

Mark my words. There will not be a legitimate wavepool made for a long fucking time. You can cry yourself to sleep at night or whatever the fuck eases your pain, but if you think you’re gonna be getting any chlorine pits anytime soon with the luxury of a few man-made pumps of water… I’ll just go ahead and shatter your dreams right now like that bitch mom did to the precious leg lamp in A Christmas Story (youtube: A Christmas Story Broken Lamp).
That’s right, folks. Our once realistic hope that we wouldn’t have to pay attention to any more bullshit Surfline.com forecasts, or worry about how to fit a surf session into our busy schedules of trying to make more cash flow and get more pussy. That hope that we could just roll our fat ass on down to the Surf Park and get our rip on, just took a turn south. By south, I mean in the direction of hell, not the glistening-with-pussy-sweat nightclubs of South Beach, Miami.
Who do we have to thank for flattening our dream like a steamroller on asphalt? None other than Ron Jon Surf Shop. The most bullshit of all bullshit surf shops in the universe. Ron Jon from its early origination has only been a cold sore on the dickhead of surf society. It breeds the image that surfers are a group of dumbass Cocoa Beach, Florida (Hometown of Jimmy Slade), bros who spend their days on the beach shredding the knee-high sandbar peelers, applying tanning oil, and working on their six-packs (abs not beers) while hoping for some beach-blanket whore to approach them and suck their cock. If you have ever seen one of their many shitty billboards driving along Interstate 95 in the Sunshine State of Florida, you would have no choice to agree with what I’m saying here. I mean, at least put a smokin’ hot girl in a bikini back up on your billboards like the days of old. I sure as fuck don’t want to see some death sentence photo of a look-a-like dude from 90210 in elastic-waist floral boardies throwing a shaka at me when I’m trying to concentrate on staying awake driving down the most boring road you’ve ever seen. I’ll admit I’m a little off subject here, but those Ron Jon assholes just pissed me off one too many times. They are the brains and bank account behind what we all once hoped to be the solution to our less than average surf conditions on the south-east coast of the United States, otherwise know as Ron Jon Surf Parks. It looked like the real deal from the start. A solid financial foundation, a hip new website with digital previews that made it look like Pipeline was about to come to Orlando. The hype was real, unfortunately nothing else was.
When I got the call that I would be the lucky sonofabitch invited to come shoot photos of the first surf in this new “revolutionary wave pool” with CJ Hobgood and the brothers Lopez, I almost shat myself! I thought I was about to shoot an important moment in surfing history. Then there were some problems and the session got delayed until further notice. Instead, it ended up being Aaron Cormican, Alec Parker and Evan Geiselman as the first surfers to try the pool out. The moment we pulled up to the contraption disappointment set in. I just knew it wasn’t going to work, but I decided to retain a little hope until I watched the first waves pump out. Here’s the play-by-play of what I witnessed… Fifty-kilo super-grom Evan Geiselman struggles to work the knee-high dribbler into the inside section and almost manages to get radical with a pathetic whitewater climb at the end, before dry docking himself on a shitty metal grill.
“How could this happen?” I thought to myself. I know this was only the prototype kiddie pool, but the whole layout was just wack. I came to find out, the dudes who created this thing had no idea how to ride a goddamn surfboard. Creator A was a mad Kiwi scientist who all I heard say was a bitter “It’s not possible” when Creator B would scream at him to crank up the power in the control room. Neither one knew how to surf. I observed Creator B from the edge as he struggled to get his feet under his body and onto the deck of his 7’6” funshape. I have to give him a little credit still because I know the wave conditions were hell, but that was his own fault wasn’t it?
Dimension-wise, the pool was only about 15 metres wide, if that, and only maybe 30 metres long. It got narrower from the back to the front. Anyone who surfs understands that you don’t ride waves going straight in. They have standing waves for that. You ride waves going down the line horizontally. That’s how you get speed. Ever check out how far the distance you travel is on a wave? Even on your worst rides during shitty days at beachbreaks it’s a whole lot more than 15 metres across.
So the design of this hell-hole was doomed from the start. What about the “six waves per minute!” claim they threw out to the public? Well, that’s great in theory, but the problem with it is, as soon as one little ripple pops out of the machine, it chops the hell out of the surface from bouncing off the walls. So, 10 seconds later, when the next waves dumps out, it’s like surfing in a washing machine. And each wave after that just becomes progressively worse.
How about that ever-changing bottom called “Versa-Reef” they claimed could morph the pool from a fun, ramping beachbreak and turn it into a heaving Teahupoo-esque pit? Ha ha! Hilarious! They tried changing the bottom when I was there and I honest-to-god could not tell the difference from what it was before. All I saw was, when they pumped up the pool to full power it would turn into a waist-high, suck-up closeout that even Cormican couldn’t make the drop on.
So, there you have it. Not only do we have Ron Jon Surf Parks to thank for getting our hopes up, we can also thank them for stunting any future development on wavepools around the world for the next decade. I guarantee you, investors have taken note of this hideous failure. They took top-notch technology and millions of dollars to create a contraption that is easily shown up by neighbour Typhoon Lagoon’s wave pool, which wasn’t even built specifically for surfing, and was constructed in 1989!
How have we managed to go backwards in wave pool technology in the year 2008? That Malaysia pool may be sick to do some whip-ats, but if you don’t have a PWC, good luck with surfing that shit. I saw one they made in Las Vegas but that was even worse than Malaysia’s. As soon as they pumped out a it just flooded the shit out of the fake beach on the shore. Typhoon Lagoon in Orlando is a rideable wave but not so much suited for high-performance surfing. It can be fun but is a novelty at best. The best wave pool ever created was in Japan, which looked fun and even gave the opportunity for a few silly head-dips, but it has been closed.
Now, they have finally officially shut the Ron Jon Surf Parks project down until further notice, and all I can really do is laugh. Making a legitimate wave pool is completely possible. It just needs to be approached the right way. By that I mean a few simple things…
There needs to be a gigantic area filled with millions of gallons of water for it to truly work. Think: the size of a football stadium; Not: the size of that pathetic little shack you call your house. And, it needs an adjustable bottom that can be very deep or very shallow in any spot of the pool controlled by computers. There needs to be some way for the water to flow through the sides so that it doesn’t chop the fuck out of the whole place with backwash once the first set rolls through.
There needs to be tanks with enough power to force a decent size swell into the pool so it has the push to give the average surfer some real speed. And there needs to be a person with enough money to make this all happen. Bill Gates and Donald Trump come to mind. None of those bastards are going to waste their money on something like this, which basically puts us in the column of “shit out of luck”.
Enjoy the ocean people. Help is not on the way.

Gunn
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Can the Waveyard do it?
Reply #47 on : Fri April 30, 2010, 08:15:55
Bummer...would be cool to see someone really make a good wave park/pool. Great picture...how can these guys think a tiny pool like this can actually make a wave we want to ride. Can Wave Yard pull it off in AZ? Time will tell I guess.
found!
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found@the echo
Reply #46 on : Sun February 14, 2010, 07:20:31
Found!
Swell day – but not for the reef
8:00am Friday 12th February 2010

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I have been a surfer for almost 50 years and I am a former member of the British Surfing Association executive.

Last Saturday, February 6 I saw that the swells rolling into Poole Bay were as perfect as I have seen for years – four to six feet with a light offshore breeze.

I headed for Boscombe Pier in order that I might at last see what the reef was capable of.

What I found was dozens of surfers enjoying themselves in the perfect waves on either side of the pier, but not a single surfer on the £3.7 million reef.

The reef itself was a total mess and completely unrideable.

The stated intention at the outset of the project was to increase the number of surfable days at Bournemouth.

Not only has it completely failed in this respect, but it is unrideable even on very good surfing days.

I don’t know what ASR have got wrong in the design, but clearly something is badly wrong.

I trust that Bournemouth council will be doing whatever is necessary to recover its investment, especially as I understand that funds were withheld pending a successful demonstration of the reef working correctly.

As for holding a surfing contest on the reef (Sorted for Surf, Daily Echo, February 10), well, forget it. It’s not going to happen.

John from Bournemouth
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bournemouth surf contest
Reply #45 on : Sat February 13, 2010, 11:02:41
booger, bournemouth says...
10:58pm Wed 10 Feb 10

baxi22 wrote:
I have been a surfer for almost fifty years and I am a former member of the British Surfing Executive.
Last Saturday (6th February) I saw that the swells rolling into Bournemouth bay were as perfect as I have seen for years, 4 to 6 feet with a light offshore breeze.
I headed for Boscombe Pier in order that I might at last see what the reef was capable of. What did I see was dozens of surfers enjoying themselves in the perfect waves on either side of the pier, but not a single surfer on the £3.7 million reef.
The reef itself was a total mess and completely unrideable.
The stated intention at the outset of the project was to increase the number of surfable days at Bournemouth. Not only has it completely failed in this respect, but it is unrideable even on very good surfing days.
I don't know what ASR have got wrong in the design, but clearly something is badly wrong.
I trust that Bournemouth will be doing whatever is necessary to recover their investment, especially as I understand that funds were withheld pending a successful demonstration of the reef working correctly.
As for holding a surfing contest on the reef, well, forget it. Its not going to happen.
Can't agree more. Been surfing in Bournemouth for 22 years, and like the above comment, I checked the reef with a surf photographer who wanted to get some pics of the reef working on Saturday 6th Feb. We chose Saturday because of the surf forecast, which gave a long 16 second period groundswell, at a height of 4 feet from a SW direction. Offshore wind. (basic surf dynamics - higher the groundwell period, better the surf, SW direction, ideal for hitting the reef as the swell comes from Mid-low Atlantic - offshore wind- holds the waves up nicely and stops them from breaking early).

Rolled up at low tide, 9.15am - swell hitting the reef, tide too low so reef not working. 40+ people surfing the naturally occurring sandbars each side of Boscombe Pier.

Check Bournemouth Pier - good waves, 3ft with the occasional 4 footer.

Surf for 3 hours despite 5 degrees water temp. Check the reef at high tide (when it breaks best). Waves closing out (wave breaking along its entire length, not rideable). Utter drivel.

The bright sparks at the leisure / tourism department (watching some clueless council moron spout on about surf conditions during the much hyped opening, clearly having no idea what he was talking about. and obviously quoting from a piece of paper he'd had thrust into his hand 3 minutes before the interview started) have switched their stance from 'it will double the number of surfing days' to 'the reef will provide surf with a combination of suitable swell with optimum wind'. Well, we had suitable swell and optimum wind (perfect conditions) on Sat 6th Feb, and trust me, it did not work.

Quite why the council engaged ASR, given their track record in New Zealand and Australia beggars belief (as a council employee I was threatened with disciplinary action if I talked about the trip to Australia heads of unit and councillors took to Australia, as none of these public employees knew diddly squat about surfing, wave dynamics or how waves react over a reef - jolly for the boys?)

Good luck to Sorted Surf Shop with the reef comp, they'll need it. It's a shame, because these guys seem to have put Boscombe on the map as a surf destination before the reef started, without the councils help
japan pool
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Re: The Death of a Surf Park
Reply #44 on : Tue December 22, 2009, 13:42:51
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-srTtMf2RI pause @2;30.Why they didn't use this tech.on a slightly larger scale is beyond me.I sure it would be cheaper than what they were trying to do or what they have wasted
Mike
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Re: The Death of a Surf Park
Reply #43 on : Tue December 22, 2009, 13:33:37
I agree with all sais except that the ocean dome had a silly head dip.Pause the vid. on that biggest right,that is a stand up pit!
onbehalf
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on behalf of transparency and notalocal
Reply #42 on : Mon November 02, 2009, 10:07:05
Notalocal, says...
1:18am Sun 1 Nov 09

Not commented on here yet. But, as I am not fully aware of all the facts (other than the MAJORITY of surfers are not impressed with the results seen vs. the anticipated results), I have written to the Beeb and asked Panorama to investigate independantly. Here is what I wrote to them. Feel free to copy and email again to try and highlight the need for an investigation. Don't let another county or country be sold another potential dud.
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Hi.

As you may know, recently Boscombe in Dorset on the south coast of England has installed an artificial surfing reef. The cost of which has been underestimated, the delivery of which was delayed and the completion and end results are still subject to approval.

It has become quite a talking point locally and within the greater surf community, and it is now not just a local issue but also a global issue.

ASR ltd. The company responsible for the design and implementation of the reef appear to have made fundamental errors in construction with regards to placement of the sandbags that make up the reef. As such, the reef itself has not met the mandate which was set out when the local council were sold the project - to create surfable waves of a certain quality on a more frequent occurrence than the present surfing conditions within Bournemouth Bay.

One major reason why the reef was approved for construction by the council was that it was believed the extra tourism revenue would help local business and the regeneration of the pier area would improve the image of the town. Well, the pier regeneration does look very nice, but because there is no surf on the reef it could all turn into one big mistake with no one actually coming to spend money there.

Another aspect of the project was the sale of the beachfront car park to make way for new apartment buildings. These have been erected, but local hearsay is that they are not occupied by many and that they are mostly sold as holiday apartments. Again, not bringing in the year round benefits expected. It would also be nice to know if anyone affiliated with the council if also affiliated with the property firms involved in construction.

Now all this alone might be stomachable, just. But before the reef in Boscombe was even approved, council members visited existing natural and artificial reefs worldwide used for surfing. One of these reefs I'm sure would have been the New Zealand Opanake reef, another artificial reef constructed by ASR ltd. Of this project, local surfers have noted that not only has the project there not delivered on it's promises but it has also had a detrimental effect on the other local waves in the area. As well as making the surrounding sea now unsafe for swimmers and bathers. If this information was available to Bournemouth council prior to approving the Boscombe reef,... well, why was approved in the first place?

It has now been reported that ASR Ltd are to design and build a reef in India. It is bad enough that this poor nation has now been sold on (judging by past ASR projects) what at worst is a waste of money and at best an unproven technology. But the funds of which apparently are coming from the Boxing Day Tsunami relief funds.

So the questions I would like you to investigate are:

1) Why, given ASR's past failures did the Boscombe reef get approval?
2) What has been the cost to the tax payer for this venture?
3) Was the project ever really viable anyway? And has it met it's mandate?
4) Can we stop ASR from plying their trade elsewhere in the world? Not only stopping them from wasting local funding which could be used more productively elsewhere, but from destroying other local resources in the process (ie. bathing areas)

If you investigate further this matter I am sure you will find strong local sentiment towards it. In the current climate I feel the local councils have a responsibility to spend our money more prudently. Trying to emulate nature is never going to be easy and predictable, but the statements made from the outset of this project eluded to the fact the reef would:

A - Increase the number of surfable days in Boscombe, attracting visiting surfers on more frequently. (Not only has it not done this, it has had a detrimental effect on other breaks in the area which will no doubt lead to LESS surfers visiting Boscombe, thus LESS revenue.)

B - Increase the height of the waves. In union with point A, it was believed that the number of days when there are waves in Boscombe, but too small to surf, the reef would magnify these waves to produce more surfable days in the year. ASR are now claiming that surfing conditions in Bournemouth Bay are not productive to good surfing conditions and that the more consistent time of winter will provide the required conditions for the reef to show it works - not quite what was sold though.

C - Improve the quality of the wave. At present there does appear to be a wave of sorts breaking when the conditions are favourable, but again, the quality of which does not meet the expectations promised by ASR.

Bournemouth council have not yet signed off the project as complete. They are waiting for a 'good' day of waves so that they can train the lifeguards on it. But they have been waiting a while now - long enough for there to be a variety of different wave producing conditions where other surf areas locally have produced better waves than the 'reef'.

It is rumoured that the council is withholding £300k from ASR until the reef is signed off as complete. If this is the case I would like you guys to intervene and investigate so that more money is not wasted on ASR. I am pretty sure that the reef will be signed off. Only because not many people locally or within the council have any idea what makes a good surfing wave. Therefore they can wipe their hands of the situation and claim success, only the long term benefits will not be forthcoming because us, the surfers, will not be using the area and as such local businesses will not feel the benefit.

Please investigate this matter as a matter of importance. It needs to be seen that good intentions are not enough and that mistakes of this magnitude do not cost local populations again.

Kind regards and thanks for reading.


Notalocal, says...
1:24am Sun 1 Nov 09

Also:
"An impartial third party research firm conducted a study and found that the marketing and PR value of the Reef in Boscombe, even before its completion, is estimated to be greater than $10M pounds which is over 3X the total cost of the reef. "
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Not sure what 10million dollar pounds are, pretty sure that are worthless though. Any chance of seeing this independent research?
stuffed up
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stupped up everything?
Reply #41 on : Mon November 02, 2009, 10:04:47
www.stuff.co.nz search the site for opanake reef will find the reef grief story - now our surfing wreath?

Construction of the reef began in March 2006 with placement of bag anchors. It has been delayed by equipment problems and rough weather. the entire budget was spent in putting 10% of the bags in.


18 April 2008
The reef, which was the first to be finished in New Zealand, just needed a little fine-tuning, Reef Trust acting chairman Neil Walker said.

18/04/2008

"It is kind of experimental in the filling of the bags. This year because they knew what they are doing and they've got the right equipment the bags have just gone in."
The reef was already showing signs of its potential.

09/02/2009
Mr Lusk said: "ASR acknowledge they did get some things wrong which resulted in only four bags being filled in the first two years and that delay has cost us money. ASR were contracted to secure 28 bags to the seabed and fill them with sand. The end sections of those bags remain to be filled to create the shape that causes a wave. It's not certain when the work will be done at this stage but they have agreed to proceed.

15/04/2009
"Surf reef representatives say they will be back in Opunake this week to do an underwater inspection of what some locals are now calling the "surf grief".
But the Raglan-based designer and contractor, ASR Ltd, is keeping its options open about when the reef might be completed and operational."
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04/07/2009
Containers, industrial equipment and piles of sand are ruining the view at the northern headland spot, frustrated locals say and they want it cleaned up.

The unsightly equipment is part of the town's artificial reef construction, which stalled more than a year ago.
The family say the lookout is just another example of the controversy and hold-ups Opunake has dealt with over the reef issue.

"David Lusk said they'll (ASR Ltd) will be coming back but there are half-finished reefs around the world from Wales to India. I don't think they'll be coming back to Opunake.

"We could be waiting forever," they said.

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11/09/2009
Although ASR has "purchased" a floating pipeline and sand pumping gear from the trust, Dr Mead used the term "circus" when referring to the complex setting up and dismantling of that operation.

He says a tug-towed barge carrying a hydraulic excavator might be the best method to complete the job, instead of pumping sand out from shore. The digger could excavate from the seabed, fill the bags and lower them into place. But it would depend on whether a further consent to excavate was required.
"We did the survey using depth sounder, GPS, video cameras and tape measures. We have gaps to fill between the three sections of the reef and the height has to be raised to a uniform level to make the wave curl."
Yesterday Dr Mead said: "Boscombe will be our showpiece reef. People are surfing that reef now, but it will perform better in winter when the big swells come in.

"The Bournemouth Borough Council are partnering up with us to take the technology to the European Union. The more EU links they get, the bigger grants they can apply for, and for us it means more reef projects."


Although ASR has "purchased" a floating pipeline and sand pumping gear from the trust, Dr Mead used the term "circus" when referring to the complex setting up and dismantling of that operation.


www.stuff.co.nz search the site for opanake reef will find the reef grief story - now our surfing wreath?
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the bournemouth reef -big success
Reply #40 on : Sun October 18, 2009, 00:23:16
Papa Joe, Boscombe says...
12:57am Thu 15 Oct 09

reefskeptic wrote:
hey Papa joe, you seem very well qualified to comment on the reef. I'm confused that what you say seems at odds with what the local proponents for it have said. Also the claims made for its designed performance goals and the reasons that the price (with extras) went from a little to a great deal. How can such divergence in cost/benfit occur in both illusion and reality by people of various well qualified duties, skills and responsibilities? What do you think about the size of the wave is meant to be amplified along the entire length of the reef , as asked of Phew above? Also is there any truth in the gossip that the way it was built was opposite to its design and contract? The BBC graphics and video seem to suggest something is different?
I've been involved with the reef project in one way or another for the last 10 years.
Now part of the problem is that Dr Kerry Black got slightly carried away with the promises to what we can expect from the reef.
At this point you must bare in mind that ASR still have not built a reef that is successful and that is delivered on time, in budget and to a set performance.
Performance wise, the reef's bags are laid too far apart which causes the waves rather that break on the reef itself as a whole forces the waves to surge down the bags. The location of the reef is effected by the poole bay tidal flow - due to the head of the pier being changed (which used to stem the tidal current) and the recent beach replenishment programme -That explains why the beach/shoreline becomes very deep very quickly and is a safety risk.
The wave is very short with a very steep shallow take off point. ( I can think of only a few people in the local area, who would be able to surf it on a big day) This is due to a lump in the sand bags.
My conversations with ASR has led to a point that the reef is positioned too shallow for use on a low tide and to deep for any inpack on a high tide, so you are left with a very small window of usage at mid tide. Not ideal for an area with double high tides caused by water bouncing off the Isle of Wight.
After a surfer catches the wave (that is if they haven't been pinned to the sandbag or been runover by the other 15-20 surfers all sitting in an area the size of a minibus) then they will have a wave to surf. It is short with an end section that will break before they get to the end.
It may become great once or twice a year, but lacks any real promise on the typical waves we have arround here. The sad thing is that the council destroyed 3 surf areas/waves that where far better than the reef init's creation. (And they where free)

Now I don't know if I can post a link here but this photo does give you a clue to what is going on.
http://magicseaweed.
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Their are a small group of professional, highly skilled surfers come engineers who can sort the issues out for the council. Sadley it will fall on deaf ears.

The way I see it, for me it's not about the surfers - It's about our towns reputation, getting our moneys worth for a product and looking after the best asset we have, the beach for our children.

The best thing that can come out of this is the fishing!

xxpj
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xcess alcohol and frontal lobe development
Reply #39 on : Mon August 24, 2009, 12:13:18
xcess alcohol and frontal lobe development - now carefull children this is what happens if you abuse substances . All the higher logic of the frontal lobe gets "blown". Commonly known as a blown mind.
what planet are they on
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getting away with it
Reply #38 on : Tue August 04, 2009, 20:59:15
they will laugh all the way to the bank as they have heaps stashed out of touch from anyone.

almost a movie plot how they robbed a entire sports following with marketing - oh that sounds normal for a way to make money.

BUT I dont think everyone is going to tolerate a heap of unfinished reefs all over the planet especially when they got their hands on every towns money saying how good they were and how much they could do.

just like a bank robbery but done with marketing and the vision of perfect waves
Roger
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Kerry Black leaves ASR
Reply #37 on : Sat August 01, 2009, 16:28:19
Well, it transpires that Kerry Black has finally done a runner from NZ, leaving ASR behind him plus those reef projects like Opunake and Mt Manganui. Wonder where the liability is with that mess. What about his promises of plug-and-play reefs with perfect surf outcomes. Best of luck to Sealutions LLC of El Segundo USA who have bought his shareholding .....
Anonymous
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Re: The Death of a Surf Park
Reply #36 on : Fri July 10, 2009, 23:03:35
I also heard from friends that verify Kerry's commercial activities on Lombok are questionable.

They know, because one of them spend some time at his camp as a trainnee. He left early, because Kerry was such an beer drinking asshole to him and his family. I have not heard any details yet, because my friend is still in Indo.

Another friend, who worked for ASR in NZ told me that ASR was cool to work for, but that Kerry was just an arrogant prick.

Also Kerry's replies on this forum does not show that he defends himself with sensible well founded arguments that an educated person would use when his integrity is questioned.

Reading this forum, and what I have heard from my friends I am not surprised the Lombok Police and Interpol are after him.

Let's hope that in the coming future a well working wave pool will be put on the market.
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too many mistakes -no success
Reply #35 on : Mon June 15, 2009, 13:58:07
“To kill an error is as good a service as, and sometimes better than, the establishing of a new truth or fact"
Charles Darwin
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fire escape
Reply #34 on : Sat June 06, 2009, 10:31:15
since when was a fire escape fom a nightclub or a bridge to escape any future events - a "one-off handout"

it would make good pr if ASR contributed to that bridge -or it would be just humane?
saving humanity
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ASR are lendin a hand - elsewhere
Reply #33 on : Sat June 06, 2009, 10:25:59
From The Sunday TimesOctober 12, 2008

Tsunami funds spent on a surf reef for tourists
Keralan villagers made homeless by the 2004 tsunami claim funds spent on tourist projectsChris Haslam
Angry Keralan villagers made homeless by the 2004 tsunami have accused authorities in the southern Indian holiday hot spot of diverting desperately needed redevelopment aid to “beach beautification” projects aimed at increasing the region’s tourism potential.

Sun-seekers arriving in Kerala this winter will notice a marked improvement in facilities, with the previously undeveloped white-sand beaches now sprouting toilet blocks, walkways, souvenir kiosks, an amphitheatre and even ornamental flower displays.

More than £10m from the Indian government’s Tsunami Rehabilitation Programme has been allocated to areas that were not affected by the tsunami. Kerala Tourism has disguised the diversion of the funds as “coastal protection” in an attempt to quell local outrage, but the works consist almost entirely of extravagant construction projects designed to maximise the profit potential of the once sleepy resort of Kovalam.

One of these projects is the construction of an artificial surf reef that has been designed to increase the size of the waves hitting the coast. Local opposition groups claim that turning the bay into a playground for westerners will put 500 fishermen out of work and put fish breeding grounds at risk.

In the meantime, neighbouring communities remain vulnerable.

After suffering Kerala’s greatest loss of life in the disaster, villagers on the Allapad peninsula campaigned for a bridge to be built to provide an escape route in the event of future emergencies. As building work funded by development aid continues apace in the holiday resorts, work on the bridge has been suspended.

“To spend funds meant for the rehabilitation of tsunami-affected communities on tourism projects that will bring them no benefits and will undermine coastal-protection measures will make a mockery of the huge donor support provided by individuals and governments across the world, ” says Tricia Barnett, of the pressure group Tourism Concern.

Kerala Tourism argues that the developments will enrich local people through an increase in beach tourism, but tsunami survivors say they have not been consulted about the role tourism should play in the rebuilding of their livelihoods.



Have your say

Chris Haslam acknowledges that tourism brings hard cash into India, keeping people alive and creating thousands of grateful locals. Money was not “diverted” … funds were put to tourism after the tsunami by the Indian Central Government. Locals want long term economic benefits, not a “one-off handout

Dr Kerry Black, Ekas Bay, Indonesia
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KERRY BLACK SWINDLER!!!!!
Reply #32 on : Tue June 02, 2009, 23:33:48
This Kerry Black guy is a big swindler, taking money from poor people on Lombok!!! Don't go to his resort, he got a big beer drinking mouth!!
Iam glad INTERPOL is after him as well as the LOMBOK POLICE!!! Take his girlfrien MOIRA HEALY also!!!
Both big swindlers, trying to get rich over the heads of poor locals!!!! He is not a dr. He is trying to steel money from other people with good ideas. Het let the air out of our tyres while we were surfing Ekas. Go off the island!!!!
Give them some money and we are off the problem of this guy, burn the place down
heresay
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band on the run
Reply #31 on : Mon May 25, 2009, 21:08:49
Mr ***** and business partner are still unaccounted for.

Legal experts say, if caught, the fugitives could face charges of obtaining by deception and money laundering.

hmm who does this sound like?
papadamms anybody?
young blood
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kerry black
Reply #30 on : Sat May 02, 2009, 15:59:06
only good thing about all this is that everyone has worked out kerry black is a twisted washed up "old fart" that everyone knows is just in it for the money .

he pretends that he know lots but the results shows that he knows nothing and everyone thats supported his "dreams " have worked out that they were just "hookey tales" to get ppeoples interest support and their money.

So kerry black is just an old fart thats a year or two off an old peoples home and pretends that hes a surfer when he's just a liar and a thief.
what is this about?
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what is this about thats complex?
Reply #29 on : Tue April 28, 2009, 14:54:27
The first known usage of the term "confidence man" in English was in 1849; it was used by American press during the United States trial of William Thompson. Thompson chatted with strangers until he asked if they had the confidence to lend him their watches, whereupon he would walk off with the watch; he was captured when a victim recognized him on the street.[1]

The term 'scam' is often used to describe the 'confidence trick' employed by a 'confidence man'. This word is thought to come from the Irish phrase 'S cam é (pron. s'cam ae) meaning 'it is a trick' [2]

Lou Pearlman (1954) — US businessman and manager of boy bands, sentenced to 25 years in 2008 for operating a Ponzi investment scheme

Gregor MacGregor (1786–1845) – Scottish conman who tried to attract investment and settlers for a non-existent country of Poyais[5]

William Thompson (active in 1840–1849) – US criminal whose deceptions caused the term confidence man to be coined[6]
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manhunt
Reply #28 on : Sun April 26, 2009, 08:04:10
keery black apparently is the subject of an international manhunt at the moment and anyone who nose where he is should publisise it as the authorities and many other complainants want and need to know.

he seems to be "hiding" out pretty well and avoiding a mountain of papers to be served on him. What inteprol wants is up to them but everyone would benefit from him getting his day in court as "i am keery black" that he publises so well ( is he keery black in the mornings or the afternoons as well?)
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i am a coward
Reply #27 on : Sat April 25, 2009, 11:39:12
oh , yes i have young children and when it comes to their safety i have to admit " i am a coward"
so untill they are no longer dependent on me for their personal well being and safety -I will be a little shy.

i think I know that asr, keery black and big ears would not personally want to hurt them - i just dont know if they are capable of moderating behaviour of some of the extreme people they have encouraged and convinced of supporting their dreams. "whatever it takes" is part of asr's mentality though

cut snakes are very unpredictable and theres no way that I'm putting my family at risk of their dying convulsions.
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moderator getting counciling
Reply #26 on : Sat April 25, 2009, 11:08:27
mderator is getting councelling on how to be unbiased and objective and only speak in a manner becomming that duty.

he's also shy.

and not 'stupid" -doesnt want his house burnt down with his family in it as some extreme ASR gang threatened to other's that "asked the wrong questions" - threatened their well deserved "incomne stream".

ASR are sounding more like a "illegal organistion" in the way that they encourage (all be it at arms length) extremme violence and threats against personal well being .

its called cut snake behaviour ?

its called in brevard county "


"If you would like the Space Coast Reef project survive, contact your County Commissioners and tell them how you feel."

in other places its been translated as code for "tell them that we will ..... your house , your wife your kids' as i say all at arms length and as "what? we cant condone that" -but they have some responsibility in opening up the pandoras box of more kooks than them by encourging them - when the direct evidence is clearer that ASR, keerry black and shaw meade encourage expectations "way out of whack" with reality -thats a formulae for "creating a gang , a cult a team of brown shirts etc" to act as their "instruments of bullying" or "fixers"

everybody nose

"I have a number of people complaining of that and have forwarded them all to the right authorities in the right countrys concerned."

a link between encouragement and bad behaviour by supporters is being researched and could change global law forever when lives are at stake .. one way or the other.

lies on lies on lies produce some reactions eventually. Ive looked at asr's web site and even the "caght on radar" is a lie . not their wave. even the wave sequence shown is a "freak occurence " of a number of years ago - what planet is this keerry black on ??

oops sorry broke my own rullling and used a "banned persons name" when I'm the moderator.

best way to stop these leeches is "just to break out laughing" when ever they are near or their name is used - thers a shaw cure for noddy and big ears.
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kerry black to be "kicked"
Reply #25 on : Sat April 25, 2009, 10:35:08
sorry finny but the person pretending to be a human being named kerrry black is barred from answering.
he's facing allegations of misusing public trust for his own delusions of grandeur.
shirt lifting in the precence of young surfers -exposing perfect waves as a temptation is also a serious crime against minors.


he scientific world are asking questions like "how can science be misrepresented in such a scurrious way" and all their exam papers back to kindy are bing relooked at to ensure that they claim to "having any form of education"

self exile to an island in indonesia is a good outcome for all .

papers stamped "beyond rehabilitaion as -anyone"


oops I've just been reminded that i must as a "moderator" be unbiased - but the volumne of 'hatemail" makes that "difficult"

Moderators lesson for the day

remember be caucious of cut snakes - especially ones that are "unstable' in the first place.

ps everybody should ask all the relief agencies they donate to "please assure us that asr, kerry black shaw nemade and co will not in any way benefit from any of this money -unless its to set up fish farms and they volenteer their services"

in which case i will double my donation.

now group "be nice to each other"
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Other opinions
Reply #24 on : Sat April 25, 2009, 09:45:58
Hi Kerry

It has come apparent to me (by the looks of the writings beneath) that alls not good at SPL and ASR by public opinion.

We at GAP wish you all the best and look forward to seeing you very very soon to straighten the ledger.

Until then
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mount reef misadventure
Reply #23 on : Sat April 25, 2009, 08:59:29
moderator has recieved many "in confidence" documents . one which shows the designers / computer modellers being warned of the wrong things they were "assuming" in the self stimulated search for good waves. OOne of those assumptions critical to the hole that was formed was thinking "water is not wet" in its simplicity was not true, just like in bournemouth "rain is not wet -hence not heavy when it sticks to something like a football field of bags hoisted in the air . so the lifting gear designed and fabticated to "do the job" was (like everthing they do) "inadaquate" for the real world circumstances.
but at managanuit they were warned ( and convinced everybody to dismiss the warning (as a threat to good surf dream) that the ripos and hole would occur . They were warned by real hydrodynamic engineer of real world hydrodynamic experinece that their modelling was "flawed" in the way that it was beig done ( water in diffrenet circumstances is wetter or less wet (oversipmlified for dumb-arses like them ) due to the amount of air that is in it as bubbles.

NAH they said "we know it all" like they have done as a "a hallmark" "trademark" "patent" or any other behavioural signiture they put on things .

we got our high scholl diplomas and goit to mark our own papers - funnt that we all excelled.

so dumb arses like you and me that had to do it right "weell -we just wouldnt know " would we.

Well now we do know and the big question is

"what would they know?" smack-all as its just smake talk that they do when they smoke their things on each other.

but watch Black - like a cornered snake he will be "unpredictable" and ' a danger to himself and others" so its worthwhile looking at the "scheduling " requirenments for what will be an action needed for his own and perhaps others protection.

his collegues should be carefully assesting "his infallible judgement" on "anything" and they will see the cracks, inconsistances, traces of devaint behaviour (dissapearences for small extended times? the prtence of "better than everybody comfort" , a pretence of being a better person because he has more, pretence of being a real surfer because he can pretend better, pretence of being "humble" when the correspndence from him shows lust a little glimpse into the "greed and envy" personality he really is.

in fact whatout for yourselves -everybody hes a reall mixed bag of ggodies alright!

a crazy mixed up professor pretending to not be a shirt lifter

but now

everybody knows.

I hope the two people who were drowned have started a civil case against asr , keery black and shaw nmeade for damages of deliberate negligence that dissregared the need for public safety. they were warned , and warned and over again warned by every authority they dissregarded in a callous smart, snide and negligent way.

even now shaw trys to hide behind "oh anything in the ocean causes rips"

yes it does shaw but you did your lower school project on something to attract people to your rip - purposely denying the warnings - so face -up and Take it out!

i cany ahndle the deluge of bad mail comming in and it will take a while to sort it out and think of what aurhority it has to go to -the public are at risk -wherever they go -whatever they do they are a risk to everyday public safety and commerce
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Mount Reef
Reply #22 on : Sat April 25, 2009, 07:23:52
The excelent naturally occuring break at Tay st and the equally good sandbars surrounding it have been destroyed and/or badly affected by the Mount Reef. The affected area is around a kilometre long it is a very sad situation for the locals.

Also very dangerous rips have been created, we all use naturally ocuring rips but the rips around the Mount Reef and the large hole which exists beachward of it are very dangerous, have already claimed several lives, and have been described by the local lifeguards as the worst they have ever seen.

Previously Tay st was an excellent family beach, had good long waves which occasionally produced tubes, and could entertain up to a hundred surfers at a time. Now, it is like a no man's land, and is unsafe. Sadly we now have to avoid the area when surfing with our family, instead we surf nearby Clyde st which unfortunately has also been badly affected. . . the rip from The Mount Surf reef is so strong that it tends to suck people riding Clyde st into the huge hole at the bag of the reef.

We really hope that the $50,000 which has been put aside for te removal of the Mount Reef is enough to do the job, and that it's done as soon as possible. . . we want our surf break back.

By the way in advertising for the reef it was claimed that the waves on the mount coast had previously been unrideable closeouts. . . what Bullshit !
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Dr Kerry Black
Reply #21 on : Fri April 24, 2009, 16:17:46
Hey Kerry !! why are you not using dr in front of your name anymore ? Is it because all the people in your life, from now on, are awake & not fools ? or are you growing up ?
o
You floated a letter on the internet that i must respond to and i am taking this opportunity.

When you first met me while i was working on my model you became obviously aware of my passion & capability's and immediately asked if i would build the surfpark model for you, and yet your first line in this letter was this, "If you think Fred is sensible enough to devalue our patents, then life is still full of mystery", !?
Don't get me wrong, it is not an insult to me, but get this; You gave me the drawing of the full scale version to make this $500k model and let me do the work of academic engineers & designers to come up with the construction methods and every other aspect of this complex model right down to finding and selecting materials, on a NZ $35/hour carpenters wage ( good score ).
With mother nature and all her "gremlins" always assisting me, this product turned out to be a rare page for you in that it became a success, with you lapping up credit from the investors.
I spent the last 4 weeks living on site, averaging more than 14 hours a day to get this done because of the lack of skilled workers around. I was not expecting any bonus, but one of your staff said i was up for it, so after saving you on engineers, designers, accommodation & transport you gave me 1k.?
And, after doing all this for you, you can still say my ideas are stupid,!?
This is you Dr kerry Black !

In the second paragraph you said that i "felt we were keeping the money to ourselves and intending to copy his stupid ideas" . Well... after you, in early construction stage mentioned how the surface of your reef should be smooth. You now have, in the youtube video of this pool an identical surface structure as the design that nature made me take notice of. And as i suggested, using the actual material that was shown by me while i was there ??
And also!, after you posting a video of the model design for Bournemouth on youtube a long time ago, it has been bought to my attention by others that the new surface structure of this monstrosity has changed & also resembles the design that was granted to me, in-fact, during friendly email communications with one of your staff i mentioned how i felt complimented on the new look & his immediate response was that, you and shaw "would not be happy with my comment" !? Then i received an email from Shaw trying to make a lame excuse as to why and who is responsible for the new surface design. So i called shaw and while on the phone i felt sad that i had to endure his obvious shame and embarrassment during the conversation while he was trying to make dumb excuses. This is because of you Dr Kerry Black !
You said my ideas are stupid..., well the design of the "real future in surfing" is now complete with outstanding features, one being that the surfer on the first reef while ready for a standing takeoff can punch a choice of buttons (8) that gives him a choice of wave-peel speed, 5 seconds before the wave is created.
And a group of dedicated surfers who have been communicating with the IOC on making surfing an Olympic sport are very exited and pleased to be able to have this extremely appropriate design (that will eliminate the complex problem of finding suitable locations.) on the table, at their next scheduled meeting with the IOC ! ..... stupid ideas huh!

In the next paragraph you mention enjoying peace and harmony in science,... how is that possible, smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day ? And how many surfers can enjoy surfing with such self abuse. And while on the subject of self activated "Karma" your "Ball & Chain" the "wedgepool" idea that you cannot shake is responsible for a lot of ASR grieve and a sign of you lacking in skills & desire to get a real surf location happening.
But when it comes to big time surfing in business, I STAND IN AWE at your ability, how you use your academic status to pull all the strings required for selling & constructing failures and continually manipulate so you can milk the most out of every project!? You are the best!!

And now,.. sigh.. the last sentence of the letter "Fred got stuck into Andrew Moores Parentage several times as well. called his parents every loser name in the book. Andrew did not hit back".
You obviously do not think much of Andrew, With such a lie
Andrews constant attempts to micro manage me was taking its toll, so when his parents came for a visit and his mums obvious and funny way of micro management on his dad, i decided to confront him in an forceful manner for another attempt at getting him of my back,( which you failed to do after my request) but it was not in the presence of his parents and i did not do any name calling as you suggested and the fact that you were present and decided to lie about, makes it clear to me what a disgusting person you are!

And there is no need to complain about the way i write cause english is my third languwich.

You have arranged a location in indo to retire to, but with climate change in the world of business this is still going to be a hot spot and how about the name of the island, (Lombok) which translated means "hot chilly" and the location is called Ekas, which said backwards sound like sucky
So it ends up being a sucky hotspot, with a big wave incoming.

While i was working on the surfpark model i became aware that my commitment and dedication for ASR success was more than "ALL" of ASR staff combined, and last year you had the nerve to say i was untrustworthy, ha... but i know you were worried with my progress and you also needed space between us so you could be more obscure with your devious plans.
In bigwave surfing, when someone is in trouble it is common for those that are able, TO HELP!
Mother nature and the cosmic conscious gave you an opportunity with our paths crossing to put ASR back on track and get on with making surfing progress and i offered you 80% of what i produced, but you refused.
And now with the need to make my own progress and with incredible help from Mother Nature & good people the the design is complete, resulting in creating the most cost-effective wavemaker ever!
I put ideas together in a general shape & with my family assisting we started our first test with no results. Then one hour later during a violent lightning storm with a little rain water in the appropriate place, came a 5 second window of opportunity where my son was looking in the right direction that resulted in the birth of this method!? google ( freds wavemaker) and see the result.

In your youtube video it says "there is god- there is mother nature ,then there is kerry black" placing you in third place.
In reality there is only mother nature and so there is no god or satan. so you hiding behind the mark of the beast is only to give you a false sense of power that makes you very greedy, taking money using false promises, which has put you in your present predicament.

Now comes the BIG question, Do you think that mother nature is going to run out of "KARMA BULLETS"..... well do YA,, PUNK!!
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kerry black to be "kicked"
Reply #20 on : Fri April 24, 2009, 08:03:47
so sorry mr black but there are too many complaints world wise about your behaviour and false promises. Taking money under 'false pretences" is considered to be "a crime" and very insulting to the people who had it taken. The insult is that it was taken by "gyro gearlose" , his friend "big ears' (they were small but noddy told him too many things that he wanted to hear and they grew by "I wish' evolution technology . (a new patented technogology)) .

Serious money peole dont like money being taken by "noddys " especially with a tin shed full of the worlds "huei , dooui and lewies" (no sadly no our huwie - a kb pretend one) .

so its off with the pretty cartoons that you sell (against the whole worlds technical advice) , the "666" number plates , the little tricky ways of taking money raised by "trusts" , the misadventures ( work permits, weather reports , uverpumping bags , work visas, wet rain "weighing bags extra" -unforeseen that "wet rain", helicopters that cant be submarines, patents that are just ... unproductive is a good start.

Experiments with peoples very hard eraned money -oh they thought you were and had the real thing.
(on your direct professional pretend advice)

mr black , it is our duty to inform you that we hold a warrent issued by INTERsurf for your arrest.

you have the right to remain silent and anything else you say can and will be used in a court of law against you.

you are hereforth "banned" , "kicked" , banished from this site and anywhere else that has anything to do with beaches, surfpools and (peoples money that you try to get. )

your adulterous days of pretending to be a "rock star" are over , the substance abuse, the "trips" and the unbridled self stimulation in believeing that you and your cronies are actually capable of doing something that has long lasting benefits for the "payers".

the field of dreams is over , you are over , your reefs and wavepools are over - your "groupies' all know and everybody knows.

just go away -we cannot guarentee your safety on this site , near good people , on beaches or around where you may "lift your shirt again".
yes the warrant also charges you with "shirt lifting" - exposing illusions of 'nude waves" to unsuspecting and vulnerable persons of every age and gender.

we all know and we all dont want you around any more.

go away and leave the beaches alone, the wave pools alone, the interns alone - and especiallly important "leave big ears alone" and let him return to normal.

"hes not the surf messiah -he's just a "shirt lifter" and and really naughty little boy"

oh "shirt lifters" are in demand again in your lawyers office in the internet cafe in nigeria - we also know you subscibed to that very very early in your infamous career.
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You are a goose
Reply #19 on : Thu April 23, 2009, 20:39:17
KB

Whats Australia got to do with it and whats this ? more unproven crap is coming out of your egotistical mind. Dont put me in with others that despise your current antics. I travelled to Australia and other regions, I discussed installations, seeked proof and saw how you are routing the surf industry and those associated with it both there the UK and other parts of the world.

I am the "Guru" of investment for potential working installations and what your company showed me and my discussions with persons directly involved show me (and all associated with us)is that your product failed. In fact there are persons willing to have that official.

Read the article you Kook, you failed , you are just an angry nutty "professor" that by all means is about to be exposed.

We were seeking to create dreams for surfers to ride in the future not sting investment for our own gain.

We have the finances and your technology could not be proven to me , our team, all high profile companies in the industry , Jimmy, the readers of this well constructed article and THE WORLD.

I will not expose our company , my identity because we believe that (after all the damage you caused with this Florida installation for want of a better word), with our finances, the technical persons that surround us (that are surfers that surf not just write that they do) we just might be able to correct your wrongs and create something that will make the readers (and Jimmy) proud and give all in the industry confidence to invest in the industry again.

We are NOT here to line our own pockets (as some) we are surfers and want to surf.

So do your research you egotistical wanker and piss off from the surf industry like all want you to do so real surfers and real technology can TRY to create our dreams.

You are the biggest self conceeded goose (its not about you ,you dick, its about surfing and the people that enjoy it).

Guru
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dick for brains
Reply #18 on : Thu April 23, 2009, 19:12:15
Boys with very, very bad mouths. These comments of yours are libellous, defamatory and untrue. I am not backing down but I won't be responding again because you are insulting me and the many people who want to see pools in the ground.

I want the surfparks story to come out as it is complex and makes informative reading about how hard it is to raise $20 million. We have completed amazing technology, built the first small pool with clean 3 foot barrels over an adjustable reef and worked for nearly a decade to advance the pools. Funds to do the final stage of building the full-sized pool are not available yet.

What have you ever done. I think you may have failed to sell any pools in Australia. You should own up to who you are and stop bragging about wave riding that no-one can confirm. Own up to who you are, you pair of weak pricks. No-one believes anything that comes from people who won't stand up and be counted. I never back down like that and won't start now. Sober up and say something positive to move to the final stage of building a big pool with 6-8 foot waves. Many surfers want that to supplement the ocean.

You guys are wankers with a keyboard that must have come from Mum and Dad at Christmas. Remember that people with Dicks for Heads, only have 1 eye. Tell everyone your names little boys.
Have fun with the keyboard
Regards
Kerry Black. Yair, that's my name. What's yours? Guru of what? Hope you have fun at your mother and father's up-coming wedding and that your friend comes. Over and out, Reef Septic.

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