ESPN Renegade Tour

Surf Wars - Jordy Smith

Revolution in the air

While a pristine Supertubes bank was setting heats on fire at J-Bay, rumours of the sport itself being shaken to the core were flying around the globe. Such rumours arise every few years in the sport, but this time only a fool would dismiss them.

Surfing has been vulnerable to a takeover from a big sponsor or organisation for a couple of years. Since the webcasts proved that the sport can attract a large audience without having to fit within the constraints of TV scheduling, the potential for a company from outside surfing to take over or start a rebel tour has been tangible. The quality of the action is unquestionable, but its current delivery - with each event hiring different commentators and distributing through different networks and websites - is inconsistent and disjointed, a sign of potential to a more professional organisation.

The rumours started last week, when Phil Jarratt published in the Noosa Journal a piece about Kelly's manager Terry Hardy being in talks with ESPN for a rebel tour. This tour meant business, with fewer surfers (16) and more prize money (up to $US1.5 million per event).

Kelly confirmed the rumour in an email to some of his fellow competitors, in which he said: "ESPN has signed on to support and fully back a tour to potentially start next year. This is huge news and opportunity. This would include a 'new' tour based on what the surfers want to have in terms of judging, locations, formats, etc... The sponsors that are currently sponsoring ourselves and our tour events have all been contacted and included in discussions to potentially have events on this tour. It would also include a dedicated, full-time web team and signature look to all events. Basically they are looking to present a fully professional sports package of surfing to the world with dedicated prime time TV and the best, live webcasting available.”

Surfline followed up, quoting ESPN spokesman Chris Stiepock: "We're definitely interested and in discussions with a group establishing a new global surf tour. But I can't comment in detail about what's going on because nothing is contractual yet." Likewise, no surfers have so far admitted to having been courted by ESPN, although that doesn't mean talks aren't going down in private.

STAB predicted last year that something like this would happen soon. In the strangely titled "The fourth kingdom" piece (an extract is reproduced below), we interviewed industry heavyweights and pro surfers about where the sport might be in five years. Implicit in the quotes we gathered was the message that surfing, having attracted a huge online audience, was finally ripe for picking by an outsider. We speculated that the most likely predator was Nike, which owns Hurley. That guess wasn't too far off the mark. This week, Hurley threw its own curve ball at the sport by coughing up more $US100,000 for first prize in the six-star WQS US Open at Huntington, which starts next week. The prize money is more than twice what the surf labels are paying for the supposedly superior WCT events.
Twenty-six of the top forty-four have signed up for the US Open, an amazing number, given it's held at Huntington's shitty beachbreak. Kelly's in, for the first time in five years. So too are Fanning and CJ, among others. Might this be a portent of how pro surfers will respond if ESPN offers them an invite to a richer, more exclusive rebel tour?

Details are sketchy, but ESPN has reportedly locked down sponsors for the first three years. An offer to include the current tour's sponsors is on the table, but so far none has announced an acceptance of the offer.

If they decline to be part of the ESPN breakaway, the surf companies might find themselves outgunned for the first time in their history. They are big within surfing, but in the wider world, they're minnows. The entire surf industry sells about $US7.5 billion worth of gear in the US per year. Revenue for Disney, which owns ESPN, for the second quarter of this year alone was more than $US8 billion. Similarly Nike, which is already a player in the sport, has annual US sales of $US9 billion. Suddenly, the surf industry is staring down the barrel of a very fucken big gun.

ASP CEO Brodie Carr is remarkably sanguine about these latest developments. He says the ASP has locked down most of the world's best locations, which presumably limits the options for any potential rebel tour. "You gotta go through the local government (to secure a permit), and a lot of our events are sewn up," he tells STAB. "That’s a pretty big point. It’s hard to know where they are going to go." Um, the Mentawais? G-Land? Reunion? South America? Morocco? South Australia? Escondido? Rincon? The rebel tour is supposedly looking to run only eight events. It wouldn't be hard to find eight world-class breaks where the ASP hasn't staked a claim.

Stay tuned. The surf companies have spent decades building the sport, and themselves, into what they are today. They won't let it go without a fight. - Fred Pawle

 

Extract from The fourth kingdom, STAB, November 2008:

When the global economy settles, the wolves that emerge intact will be looking for bargains. Surfing might just be one of them. A major corporate blue over our sport is brewing. Will we be the winners?

ASP CEO, Brodie Carr: People from three global surf labels came up to me at Cabo San Lucas (at the Surf Industry Manufacturers Association annual conference, in May) and asked me what Nike was up to. I told them that Nike wants to get involved in surfing the right way. They want to give back.

Marketing analyst , Abram Sauer: Probably the most outright and unapologetic (not to mention successful) brand to embrace ambush marketing is Nike. If you are a major footwear producer, Nike has ambushed you: Converse in Los Angeles in 1984; Reebok in Atlanta in 1996; adidas on just about every continent in every two or four-year competition. Strategically avoiding sponsoring events and thus exposing itself to its own tactics, Nike instead sponsors teams or individuals.

Hurley marketing and team manager , Pat O’Connell: Nike is super serious about the action sports world. They are bright, unbelievably smart people. There is a rhyme and a reason behind the decisions they make. They don’t make just one-off decisions.

Nat Young , Nike 6.0’s most successful surfer: Nike 6.0 are super cool. There’s no-one over 21 (on the team). They are slowly working their way into the surf industry.

Koa Smith , also sponsored by Nike 6.0: It’s super fun to be a part of Nike. Nike are like part of every sport and I guess they’re more experienced. Companies like Nike that are going into the surfing industry are probably going to take it over.

Pat O’Connell: Nike is doing the right things. Ultimately they will change surfing. People will have a positive relationship with Nike. Nike has a big vision. I’d like to see Nike bring surfing out of the bubble a bit.

Matt Keen , head of marketing , Quiksilver Australia: Whilst Nike is a great sporting brand, they will never have the true credibility and heritage of great surfing brands like Quiksilver. This credibility has been born from years of genuinely supporting and developing the industry – it’s our heart and soul. Nike do their thing well, and so do we – that’s why we don’t sell runners.

SIMA president Sean Smith: Nike as a single company is bigger than our entire industry put together. All 200 of our members, if you put all their gross US sales together, they are still dwarfed by Nike. Our studies show we are $US7.5 billion. (Nike’s US sales are about $US9 billion.)

What if Nike snookered the surf industry by producing a better, cheaper, lighter wetsuit? Has Nike considered this?

Rip Curl global marketing manager, Neil Ridgway: Nike could comealong and make a half-decent westuit. I’m sure they could. But willcore surfers trust them more than they trust us with their wetsuits,after we’ve got 40 years of tradition and heritage, and we are anauthentic surf company? No. At the end of the day we think surfers aregoing to trust us, so I’m not that concerned. It’s like Salomon didwith surfboards – they brought all that technology with them butsurfers didn’t trust them in the end and they are gone. We’ve beenglassing blanks since 1969. 

Pat O’Connell: Nike and Hurley are definitely giving wetsuits attention. We’ve had some pretty bright people trying to understand just what a wetsuit does. Changing it, however, is a lot of trial and error. It could be a new material, or a new cut. It’s a big endeavour.

Neil Ridgway: In five or 10 years, Nike might go, “this is really not worth the effort”. They can make so much more money out of mass-participation sports and so much more money out of selling shoes. We don’t make surfing products and then one day go, “shit, why don’t we make golf clubs or buy a tennis company?” We could probably make a great golf club, but fuck why would we? It’s always going to be worth it for us to look after surfers and the tour and the ocean. Surfing is at the heart of the surf companies so we will always be there. Surfing is all we do.

Brian L
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"core"porations; step up or step aside
Reply #62 on : Fri August 07, 2009, 16:44:17
As it stands now professional competitive surfing at the elite level needs less competitors, more prize-money, and a standardized web-cast/presentation. If the ASP and it's event sponsors can't make this happen then they aren't doing whats best for competitive surfing.

If Billabong/Quiksilver/etc. are "core" surf companies then they should be aware of and in favor of these much needed changes. As a spectator and dedicated fan of the sport I've been aware of these needed upgrades for years, why haven't the "core"porations such as Billabong, Quiksilver, RipCurl, or the ASP?

I see more Rip Curl and Billabong shirts than Nike clothing among college kids in Reno, Nevada. How is selling an image to millions of people who don't even know what the beach smells like being "core"? Just because the "core" surf companies have been around for decades doesn't mean they are inherently better for the sport and industry, especially if they don't progress and change with the ever changing needs of the sport itself.

stupid sepos has a great point about the below messages showing a hostility that seems out of place in our sport. Too bad that message is a contradiction because of the name you chose to display the message with.
Stupid Sepos
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Tour for Tools
Reply #61 on : Tue August 04, 2009, 11:06:11
It’s nice to see so much passion around the Sport of Surfing, unfortunately this topic seems to have polarised so many and the below messages show a hostility that seems out of place in our sport.

The idea that someone could have a different opinion than your own is foreign and offensive to so many. The culture of our traditional surf companies is well gone, bottom turns traded from bottom lines. If it was the surfers that mattered we wouldn’t pay $50 for a poorly made Chinese shirt, just so we can have the pleasure of advertising their logo for them. The role of these companies is to create an image and sell it to the wider community, same with all businesses.

Remember it’s the buzz we all get from catching waves that make us surfers, not who we follow or what brand we buy.
Anonymous
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #60 on : Sun August 02, 2009, 12:46:06
I don't know why some of you are so defensive of the brands... they are huge corporations making buckets off surfer images... much more than the surfers actually do. That a VP of marketing at Billabong makes more than a top ten surfer is plain unfair.

This makes a lot of sense to me- http://www.grindtv.com/surf/blog/7226/inside+sources+separate+new+dream+tour+fact+from+fiction/
graz
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Grand Slam of Surfing
Reply #59 on : Wed July 29, 2009, 16:32:28
It's as easy as this.. Run all the events as is now. So they say there are 8 events ESPN are to cover, ok.
Now Run these series of contests as the Grand final (Grand Slam of Surfing) and spread the events around the world No break away tour this is for the World title chase.
Forget about top 16 make it 24 and make em surf 4man heats they want it over in a day anyway.
If they are going to do this don't go behind the ASP's back it would be more profitable for everyone..
Anonymous
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #58 on : Wed July 29, 2009, 11:51:53
hey cobbler you cannot compare kustom, Vans and globe to that of Nike due to the fact they are well established SURF labels that have contributed to the image of surfing. They are core brands that have made surfing and its image the way it is today. Nike is trying to overtake and rule what these brands established. Nike is selfish and will knock these brands from thier rooted establishments in this community.
Matthew Tinley is a CORRUPT Douchebag
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Matthew Tinley is a CORRUPT Douchebag
Reply #57 on : Wed July 29, 2009, 09:10:19
Matthew Tinley...the man behind the new tour...is nothing but a con man who ruins sports...

Promotion firm America Presents down for count

By Dan Rafael, USA TODAY

Denver-based promotional company America Presents burst on the scene in 1996 with the signing of Olympic gold medalist David Reid and quickly established itself as a force.

It secured an exclusive deal to televise fights on Fox Sports Net and had contracts with top fighters such as David Tua, Hector Camacho Jr. and Joel Casamayor.

Now it's going down in flames under a heap of unpaid bills and lawsuits from fighters.

"We're going through a tough time, but we still have some good fighters," says embattled owner Mat Tinley. "I'm doing the best I can under difficult circumstances."

Jeff Fried, the company attorney who took over day-to-day operation after Tinley forced president Dan Goossen to resign in August, had to personally guarantee that about $150,000 in bills and purses will be paid for back-to-back shows Thursday (ESPN) and Friday night (ESPN2) in Phoenix.

"I don't want to comment on that one," Tinley says.

But Fried, who says Tinley owes him nearly $100,000 for...

Full article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/stories/2002-03-22-america-presents.htm
the cobbler
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Shoes in surfing
Reply #56 on : Tue July 28, 2009, 18:12:21
Yeah piss off Nike, theres no place for shoes in surfing! Just ask Globe, Vans and Billabong offshoot Kustom. Lets make them drop all their surfers and pull all their contest sponsorship because there is no place for dirty shoe money in this business because a small minded union man says so. I would wager that you are a union man, and you think the way to save our country is a buy Australian made campaign, lets look after ourselves and everything will be ok. What a joke.
SS
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the 16
Reply #55 on : Tue July 28, 2009, 16:36:20
there will be more than 29 that are fucked because Im guessing the 16 will not all be made up of current CT'ers. You small minded fucks telling nike to fuck off are kidding yourself, oh Billabong your so soulful, only a surfer knows the feeling, just ask Bede about the feeling you get when you are not deemed marketable by some uni graduate fuck sitting in an office running things. I challenge you to name a non corporate sponsor of a CT event.....
Anonymous
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #54 on : Mon July 27, 2009, 16:46:52
Do you surf in shoes..... No fuck off nike and stick to what you do best.

SS is a tool aswell. you talk about how so many people get knocked of the CT and live the rest of thier lives with no education,no skills, no money what a load of crap. So narrowing it down to 16 is going to help.... do the fucking maths 45-16 = 29. theres 29 surfers straight away according to your knowledge that will be fucked. maybe think before you speak.
Anonymous
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #53 on : Mon July 27, 2009, 01:57:04
What has Kelly accomplished outside of 9 ASP World Titles? Kelly is a phenomenal surfer and a draw and great for the sport. However, without the 9 titles validating his dominance, would we really have considered him the best surfer every year for the past 20 years? I don't know. They way we hype everyone up and so on and so forth, it's possible that the accolade of "World's Best" may have gone to Taj one year, or Parko and Mick earlier than their titles came, or Machado, or Dane, or Jordy. ASP has made Kelly and Kelly has made the ASP...but when he's done, does that mean competitive surfing is done? I don't think so. There are so many talented surfers in the world and so many up-and-comers. I find it hard to believe that Kelly is the end all be all. I think the new concept has some merit, ESPN and increased prize money, but diluting the world's best surfers by making some surf on the WCT and some surf on Kelly's exhibition tour is a bad idea. I'd really like to see Kelly work with the ASP instead of go off on his own.
SS
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And..
Reply #52 on : Sun July 26, 2009, 13:06:25
IF Slater is the has been so many of you think he is then why all the worried faces around here? The ASP won't miss him anyway if you are right. It must be my imagination the way a beach clears as soon as a Slater vs Whoever heat ends, truth is no one wants to watch a happy to requalify tradesman go about his business.
I would hardly call the 300 odd points between Slater and Fanning smoking his ass. Yeah granted Parko has all but won the title but in doing that he has smoked everyones ass including Kellys. Also apart from the likes of Dane and Jordy the surfers you list are hardly rookies.. CJ=world title, Fanning=world title. Taj= so close so many times. Anyway if I were in the twilight years of my competitive career I would be looking in to cash in right now. I wouldn't be surprised if some of Mr Slaters competitors(and back stabbing critics) were trying a little harder to be friendly about now. Interesting times.
SS
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SS The Toolbox says.....
Reply #51 on : Sun July 26, 2009, 09:27:56
Yeah I'm sure Dane will stay with the ASP in its current format, he seems really happy there. Maybe if they let Dane surf like Dane but the current format still encourages the safety of turns to the beach to win heats. And I guess we will have to wait and see who will jump ship maybe they will stay loyal to the ASP. Speaking of Loyal what does the ASP do to help anyone who happens to fall off tour, after commiting years to the cause, putting educations on hold, no work skills, sweet fuck all thats what, look at the former "stars" struggling to get through life in the real world, yeah thats a great system. The ASP didn't make Kelly, more like Kelly made the ASP.
Matthew Tinley is a Douchebag
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Matthew Tinley is a Douchebag
Reply #50 on : Sun July 26, 2009, 04:34:50
So the names that have come up in regards to this new tour are Terry Hardy and Matthew Tinley. I'm always a bit wary of people trying to slide in and capitalize on surfing, and these two appear to be complete douchebags:

Terry Hardy: Jimmy Slade's Manager, failed entrepreneur of Celebrity Fiji Invitational, basic sleazeball seppo agent. Think Entourage's Ari Gold, but less endearing.

Matthew Tinley: Former CEO of US boxing association. Responsible for the decline of boxing in the US...ummmmmm...what? So Tinley, who has already destroyed one sport, is going to get into surfing? No thanks shithead.

Read more...

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/aug/25/sports/sp-38243
Harro
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SS is a Toolbox, Kelly is Redundant
Reply #49 on : Sun July 26, 2009, 03:02:49
SS, you're a fucking tool. You really think that Fanning and Parko are going to jump ship? They've been living in that cunt's shadow their whole lives. They're finally smoking his ass this season and beginning to establish themselves as the new shit. I can think of nothing worse for their careers than jumping onto the Kelly tour and right back in his shadow. Face facts kids, if Kelly doesn't want to put it on the line on the CT, he's on the way out. Parko and Fanning, Taj, Jordy, Dane, CJ are all throwing down on the CT and Slater wants to pull the limelight off them with his own circus sideshow.
SS
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Go Kelly
Reply #48 on : Sat July 25, 2009, 15:55:44
Why do so many of you have this attachment to the ASP? Is it because your battler mate/son/brother has been slogging it out on the QS for all those years to get his chance on the CT only to linger about in the wrong half in the good company of Brazos/euros that no one could even name yet alone care about. Get real, we don't want people making up the numbers, we want title contenders. Most early heats are boring and we all tune in to see the big names.
You all care so much because surfing needs Kelly and whoever the next big paid stars will be. I bet you all shut up when the likes of Parko and Fanning jump ship faster than you can say ASP...goodnight.
Josh
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Kelly's a dog
Reply #47 on : Fri July 24, 2009, 19:37:37
What? who made Slater? ah the ASP, what he's to good for it now, I've never witnessed him taking groms under his wing, or give back anything to the Organisation who made him,even his signature event in Fiji is Sole self marketing pat on back fucking wanker event, for tossers not even involved in the sport. but now nearing the end and retirement, he wants to take what he can and discard the rest, Fuck him
Mark Radford
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Slaters not god just thinks he is
Reply #46 on : Fri July 24, 2009, 19:29:18
16 Surfers on one Tour, what an absolute wank, what happens to the scores of talent and groms 17th and down, the 45 is already elitist as is, and with the requal rule a joke, we are just throwing a mulitude of kids on the scape heep, unless ESPN and or Nike take over the 16 and the big three create a more Financial, attractive, competitive and marketable WQS because unless you live in Europe or Brazil they completely ignore Australia and its Groms, the Country they were created and made in (check the standard and how many Euro Groms now sponsored by the big three in Euro vile. Interesting Times
Remmy
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #45 on : Fri July 24, 2009, 10:21:33
What's preventing ESPN from working with the ASP World Tour?

Seems to me like Kelly is grasping at the limelight and trying to keep the attention on him. Clearly Parko has the Title this year, and if that seppo cunt shies away from trying for 10 next year and opts for his own circus tour...well, that's just sad.

Harden up bitch.
rupert
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ESPN - it was just a matter of time.
Reply #44 on : Thu July 23, 2009, 13:26:10
i'm all for maintaining the stoke of surfing for non-pro's, weekend warriors, groms, legends and all other classifications of people who enjoy to surf around the world.

but i think ESPN, or any other 'outsider' corporation launching a 'rival' tour would be an excellent thing for the sport.

for everyone who has said 'having a rival tour, or getting non-surf companies involved is selling out,' i ask you to look at the current industry at present and the movement which is occuring.

the large, main surf companies are already sell-outs. billabong, which was once a surf-only brand, has branched out into every sport, and people who live in land-locked nations wear billabong without knowing its origins. The same goes for Quiksilver, Volcom, Rusty and Rip Curl. Its just good business. They are a business, they want to boost profits. So in my eyes the only people who havent sold out are the recreational surfers and shapers WHO DON'T sell chinese/vietnamese popouts aka firewire (whose second models made overseas snap like twigs), ESP, BIC and Tuflite manufacturers.

And now it has been recognised both that surfing can be, and is, a true competitive sport attractive the world over, and that there is real money in the surfing industry. Why else would nike have invested in hurley? I applaud their efforts, without them we wouldnt have super stretch boardshorts or $100,000 USD first prize pouches for competitions. I think every surfer will agree that sure, professional surfers (especially those in the top 16) earn a great deal of money, but compared to other athletes, they are put under much more stress, the scoring processes are difficult, travelling is gruelling and it is now simply an elimination round process. you travel 3000 miles, train, be prepared for an event, go out - and the waves are shit and you are knocked out of the event - so any extra money thrown their way can only serve to benefit those communities where the event is held, and to boost the industry itself.

So if ESPN want to sponsor a tour, make it more 'mainstream,' offer professional surfers more money and take it to the world, thats fine with me.

But its not going to change my feeling, nor should it any other surfers, that it still takes dedication, love, passion and skill to surf, and that will never change. Just because more money is being thrown around and companies who ride on the back of the 'surfing craze' may capitalize is irrelevant. It still pisses me off when i walk into a supposed 'surf shop' like city beach and someone who clearly doesnt surf, wear's 'julian wilson' shell necklaces and token surfwear asks if the 'waves were sick today bro.' I still want to slap the kid, steal a leash and run out screaming 'fuck off.' But the feeling i get chasing a swell down the coast or the psyching buzz as when you fly into denpasar airport and you can see kuta reef cooking in the distance has not change, nor will it ever change.
Anonymous
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #43 on : Thu July 23, 2009, 11:06:45
i have two words for the corporate world that is trying to destroy the true essence of surfing
..................FUCK OFF........................
mexican media mogul guy
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #42 on : Wed July 22, 2009, 22:16:48
it's going to be better for surf companies coz they don't need to fork out a mil per event like they do now... they can place commercials during the webcast. eg: billabong can run a wetsuit ad before joel's heat... and they'll get exposure from having their logos on the athlete's boards, caps, clothing etc.... it's pretty much the way skate comps work. dewtour.com... they get toyota or whatever to be the presenting sponsor but the competitors are decked out in skate logos

i reckon they could run both tours. do the KCT in the breaks between WCT

it'd be cool if the KTV has wildcards like JOB bruce machado shane etc
Anonymous
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #41 on : Wed July 22, 2009, 13:43:45
FUCK THE COOL! FUCK YOUR STICKERS AND YOUR LOGOS! FUCK YOUR CHANGE AND YOUR EGOS! STOP TAKING AND TAKING AND TAKING! STOP BEING SO FUCKING SELFISH. THE WORLD NEEDS CHANGE. BUT SURFING DOESNT! WE AREN"T READY FOR IT! Surfing is already losing it's soul. BIg companies are doing their very best to ruin surfing and it's unique existence. Just like the whites came to Australia with their money, power, regulations and Guns. They took over countries and killed a race! The skin colour of the natives not
only faded, but so did their culture and beliefs.
Companies with Money and power are trying to do the same. Use power
and $$ instead of guns and bullets. For what? To improve the sport like the whites improve this country? GET FUCKED! We need to be very careful that we don't ruin our sport! Selfish mother fuckers!
Trent
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #40 on : Wed July 22, 2009, 07:32:03
I think you could safely say that theres close to zero interest in pro surfing through out the majority of the USA. Even at US Surfing Open currently on in Huntington beach the sideshow events are much more popular than the main show- all the Xtream Sports like skating etc.
Brandon M
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Interesting times
Reply #39 on : Tue July 21, 2009, 18:00:35
If Kelly's tour is successful it will allow ESPN and other big corporate players such as Sony and Nike to take control of pro surfing. Billabong, Quiksilver and Rip Curl are going to get fucking massacred.
Kelly the Corporate Cock Sucker
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Awesome idea
Reply #38 on : Tue July 21, 2009, 17:07:18
This 16 man exhibition tour idea is fucking awesome. First we can fuck off the women events because those incompetent bitches should be in the kitchen anyway. Then we fuck off the wqs because that allows Brazilians and other non-American surfers a chance to compete. Then we fuck off the entire ASP because they transformed Kelly into a competitive surf god and now he is much too powerful for such an insignificant non-profit organisation. Now that he is almost 40 and more aware than ever of his mortality he has graciously decided to "give back" to surfing. And what better way than to crush the tour that created him and select a corrupt field of 16 monkeys who dance on water for ESPN and non-endemic sponsors such as Nike, Target, and so on. End result - a self-serving egomaniac secures his retirement for him and his friends. Pure fucking genius.
James
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #37 on : Tue July 21, 2009, 10:49:22
Matt Keen , head of marketing , Quiksilver Australia: Nike do their thing well, and so do we – that’s why we don’t sell runners.

......What??? Is that why Quiksilver bought and regurgitated Rossignol skis and Cleveland Golf?
Hank Andrews
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WHAT!!!?
Reply #36 on : Mon July 20, 2009, 18:42:44
Neil Ridgway - "At the end of the day we think surfers are going to trust us, so I’m not that concerned". If, as head of Rip Curl's global marketing department, you aren't concerned about Nike's overtones, you and the company that pays you to be concerned about your competitors, is living very dangerously. Complacency and tunnel vision has killed far bigger companies than Rip Curl. MASSIVE change is in the air.
sean
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Re: ESPN Renegade Tour
Reply #35 on : Mon July 20, 2009, 16:40:28
sess pool last time i checked aussie dollar to US was 80cents.
Slater's Midas Touch
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Slater's Midas Touch
Reply #34 on : Sat July 18, 2009, 19:05:32
Sess Pool is an ill-informed muppet.

Slater's Midas Touch includes:

- K-Grip Accessories(Horrible Failure)
- Komunity Project Accessories (Current Failure)
- Kelly's Slater's Fiji Celebrity Invitational (Ill-Conceived Horrible Failure)
- "The Surfers" Music Album (Makes You Want To Kill Someone)

Ironically, the only Midas Touch Kelly has is when he's wearing an ASP singlet.

In regards to your list of plausible locations, I offer the following retort:

La Jolla Mexico (Actually, Rip Curl - a major ASP backer - has the permit here still, good luck wrenching it off them)
Playa Escondido (I assume you mean "Puerto Escondido"? Moron. Of course this is a good option, which is why Quik is currently running a 3-Star there and looking to develop it further)
Mentawais (Right, "almost anywhere" you say...in remote Northern Sumatra...and you assume ESPN will have some magic wand that will beam the live feed straight into your head? Idiot)
Chopes (doubt the ASP owns the right there)...no but Billabong - a major ASP backer - does own the the permit here...you're not a very astute learner are you?
P-Pass!!! (dismissive wanking motion)
Honolulu Bay ("Honolulu" Bay is actually on the island of Oahu and offers no waves whatsoever. I assume you mean "Honolua Bay" where the permit is owned by Billabong - a major ASP backer.)
Rincon (What swell window would you use? Rincon is fickle even in the middle of winter and requires an extremely west north swell to start cranking...btw, good luck pulling the permit off of the 300-strong billionaire locals club)
Fiji (poor Globe) ...on the cards for an ASP event in the near future.
Chile (anywhere) - again, why are your suggestions all spots that ASP has put on the map in terms of events.

So "sess pool" it's not the fact that you were kind enough to post your tripe on three separate occasions, it's that it is completely and utterly worthless.

Please go kill yourself, or better yet, go listen to "The Surfers" album.
sess pool
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New Deal
Reply #33 on : Sat July 18, 2009, 15:07:28
Alright listen up... Slater is not done. He's got the Midas touch. The ASP should headquarter in the US, why because our currency is double that of OZ, with more potential money. The ASP will be come the WQS... CT include.

There are so many waves the "New Deal" could hold a contest. Bro-daddy Carr is kidding himself if he thinks they've locked down the prime events. Talk to Rip Curl and the Search. Shit the current tour is about to boycott Pipe because of 16 trialist from Hawaii making in.

List of 8 spots...

La Jolla Mexico
Playa Escondido
Mentawais (almost anywhere)
Chopes (doubt the ASP owns the right there)
P-Pass!!!
Honolulu Bay
Rincon
Fiji (poor Globe)
Chile (anywhere)
West Africa
West or Southern Oz

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